Metconning for Strength
Hey Yo Matt:
Can you explain the difference of lifting for volume and the metcons involving weight lifting. People seem confused when I try to explain it.
Basically the question that coaches get all the time is: “can’t I just get strong from doing metcons? Why do I have to do strength?”
The short answer is no, no you cannot just get strong from Metcons.
There are dozens of psychological and physiological adaptations that occur during strength training that will NOT and do NOT occur when your major limiter is your breathing.
Here’s the long(er) answer from the exercise science perspective via Mike Bledsoe and the Barbell Shrugged Crew:
So, since that’s out of the way I’m going to approach this from a slightly different angle. Hopefully, my little story will help put this in a different perspective.
Getting strong requires not only an adaptation in your muscles (the fibers become capable of doing more work) and an adaptation in your Central Nervous System (your body’s ability to tell the muscles to do the work), but an adaptation in your psychological system (your brain’s willingness to let your body do something heavy and scary).
Do this little test: put 25lbs more than you’ve ever squatted on a bar. Then get under it and try to stand it up out of the rack. It feels like its going to crush you right? Of course it does. This is why things like rack holds and yoke walks are so effective.
Now, let’s apply my favorite nerd thing in the world to this conundrum.
The primary function of the human brain is survival. The thing that will keep you from surviving the quickest (ie kill you) is lack of breathing.
When you are conditioning, you are out of breath. When you can’t breath your body won’t make allow you to do anything else that is difficult (ie lift a heavy think that you’ve never lifted before).
So simply put, you won’t ever be able to put yourself in a situation to get stronger if the only time you ever try to get stronger is when you are in a metcon.
So, no.
Now, the volume of what you lift in a metcon definitely needs to be taken into consideration for the next days work outs.
You shouldn’t try to PR your back squat the day after doing 300 air squats in Murph or 100 thrusters in Bull.
However, its never a replacement for actual strength training.
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Hey Matt,I was at your seminar at CF Lagrange yesterday and really enjoyed it- thank you for coming. My husband and I both crossfit 4-5x a week and we are participating in the 60 day challenge they just started there. Our goal is to do things “by the book” for this 60 days, be healthier, and hopefully adopt a few new eating habits forever. So we went shopping yesterday and a few questions came up.1. If you buy anything that is not produce or meat, such as almond butter/milk or a even the most basic, organic, “all natural” salad dressing, the ingredient list (even if its a short list) includes corn syrup or some heinous 16 letter ingredient or whatever. Sweat it or not?2. Second question is kind of along the same lines. My husband is a firefighter and they eat at restaurants a lot when he’s on shift. He can order meat and vegetables all day but chances are they dont fry their eggs in olive oil, etc. You dont know what they are doing to those meat and veggies to make them taste better. What is your view on eating paleo at restaurants?3. Some paleo websites we looked at included “clarified” butter and stevia as acceptable. True?4. Why is honey not paleo?
Thank you so much for the nice words and best of luck!
Hey Yo Matt: Weight Vests Revisited
Hey Yo Matt,
Wore the vest twice so far and here’s how I felt.Tuesday
5RFT
400m
6 HPC @ 155
12 SDHP @ 2 pdFinished dead ass last in the WOD with a time of 24:57RX, but felt ok.(or as good as one could while wearing a 25# vest) If I had to guess at least 5 minutes slower than I could’ve done without the vest.
Thursday
10min AMRAP
20 KBS 1.5 pd
20 HRPU
40 DU’s2 minute rest
10min AMRAP
20 jumping lunges
20 burpees
40DU’sFirst AMRAP I got 3 and the second one I got 2. This one totally sucked and I found myself stopping to catch my breath more than I did working. Was I missing the point of the workout by losing out on the intensity? I know I could’ve gone 4+ and 3+ without the vest.
Sooo..,I went back to the blog post:
Harder is not better. Better is better. Sometimes you need to make it harder for variety, a different challenge, or meeting a specific goal, but don’t think that upping the “suck factor” will necessarily lead to better gains.
I’m still thinking harder is better and guessing I should’ve left the vest in the car Thursday, right?
I honestly think you are spot on here.
The first WOD wearing the vest is fine. Yes, the vest will interfere with the normal movement patterns on both of the barbell movements, but the weight is not heavy enough that I am too concerned about it.
You said that you probably could have shaved 5 minutes without the vest. It took you close to 25 minutes. The difference between 20 and 25 minutes is not significant enough that it changes the intention of the WOD.
Now, if it was supposed to be a 7 minute WOD that took you 12, that would be a much different story.
You definitely should have left it in the car on Thursday.
Based on your rounds, you were not able to push at the pace that you would have been without the vest.
Also, the movements are not conducive at all to wearing a vest. Doing any sort of jumping motion with a vest on is generally more stress on your lower body joints and spine than I would recommend.
The quote you pulled summed it perfectly.
Yea you made the WOD way harder, but harder to the point that you missed the entire purpose of the workout.
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Hi Matt,
Wanted to pick your brain on what I’m calling 2013: Year of the Athlete. I’m going to try out some new events and will be doing them pretty much throughout the year.Events:
- St. Louis GO! Half Marathon - April 7th
- Pittsburgh Half Marathon - May 3rd
- Sprint Triathlon – Innsbrook MO - June 23rd
- Boston Triathlon - August (date TBD)
- US Air Force Half Marathon - September 21st
- 100K Erg at some point in the Fall / Winter (date negotiable, not an official event)
- Generally these are done anywhere between 7 and 9 hours, and I’ve done erging marathons in ~3 hours in the past (marathon = 42,195m, so this is significantly longer).
- Chicago Polar Bear Half Marathon - early January 2014
I’m concerned about 2 things:
- Reducing risk of injury. I think I left enough time between events that my body won’t break down, what do you think?
- Fitting in the cross training of cycling / running / swimming / erging in a way that will give me reasonable times for the events
As you know I’m a fairly good runner so I’m not overly concerned with finishing the Half Marathons. I would like to be able to finish them faster than I have before. The last half marathon I did was the Rock and Roll Half Marathon in which I sprinted out way too fast and ended up finishing in ~1hr 53 minutes (pretty much my usual pace, though I think I could have brought it down by 4 minutes if I hadn’t been so stupid). Ideally I would want to get sub- 1:40 for at least one of the half marathons I’ve chosen, but I’d be happy with sub-1:50.Do you have any particular training recommendations? Currently I’m getting back into running shape, I did a 7.58 mile run in 1hr 5 minutes on a treadmill with no elevation. I’m also erging and did my last 10K in 44 min. and 12 seconds (a split of 2:12.6). I’m expecting those times to come down steadily over the course of the next month or two, with the erging 10K becoming a 2:05 split.Thanks Dude,The Danimal
Hey Yo Matt: Plateaus
Hey Yo Matt:
So I feel like I’m hitting a wall lately with Crossfit. It’s starting to frustrate me. Thoughts?
So people start CrossFitting and see these immediate huge gains in everything. It changes their lives and everything about them. Its huge. People go from hating exercise to junkies in literally a snap.
The unfortunate thing is that the level of adaptation for a beginner will quickly start to level off. Everything works for a while when you’re new. This means that if you are a couch potato and you start riding a bicycle than your bench press will go up.
New CrossFitters will experience the same thing.
This is especially true for a female who has never strength trained. After the first few months, your training will need to become more specific towards your goal.
After a certain point in time, randomness no longer will get you where you need to go.
So the plan of action is simple.
- Identify your actual weaknesses.
- Find someone smart to create a program or coach you (or jump in on a specialty class to meet those goals).
- Work at those goals
- Retest
This process repeats itself for the rest of your life.
The more trained you become the harder it is to adapt. The closer to your genetic potential you become the more specific work is required to train.
Even at the top level, you do not see Olympians in multiple sports.
That’s why Bo Jackson and Deion Sanders are so unique. They are literally the only two people in the history of ever how can be at that top level for multiple things.
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